[Community_garden] Assistance with Project

Sat Jul 14 12:24:31 EDT 2007

wow; it sure sounds risky--especially on a large scale in another country 
with perhaps dicey water supplies to begin with...
    I always go the 'safety first' way; not the 'oh, let's take the chance 
way'....
                                            ---McG
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Waibel" <newworld at fedteldirect.net>
To: "Mike McGrath" <MikeMcG at PTD.net>
Cc: "Mike Leech" <holabol at iafrica.com>; 
<community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 2:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Assistance with Project


>    As a rule, only meats and dairy products require pressure canning.
> True, tomatoes and other high-acid foods are best, but only those with
> the types of protiens and fats that are readily attacked by toxic
> putrefacting microorganisms need pressure canning. We've been canning
> many things for years, maybe decades, and have thoroughly researched this.
>
> Chuck Waibel
>
> Mike McGrath wrote:
>
>>Well, gaursh--I sure think you do want to use a pressure cooker if you 
>>want
>>to be safe with low to no acid foods. (That is, anything other than 
>>tamatas
>>and pickled things.)
>>    Listers--are I wrong? Or do string beans, corn, etc., require pressure
>>for proper putting up?
>>                                            ---McG
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Heather DeGeorge" <hdegeorge at yahoo.com>
>>To: "Mike McGrath" <MikeMcG at PTD.net>; "Mike Leech" <holabol at iafrica.com>
>>Cc: <community_garden at list.communitygarden.org>
>>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:44 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Assistance with Project
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>You don't need a pressure cooker.  You can use stock pots of boiling
>>>water.  Most recipes account for the "water method" in the times stated
>>>for processing.  It's actually harder to find recipes that account for
>>>pressure canning.
>>>
>>> Canning isn't nearly as hard as people think!  I used to do it with
>>>farmer's market produce when I lived in a 1-bedroom apartment.  It's a
>>>wonderful art that seems to be dying...
>>>
>>> --Heather DeGeorge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mike McGrath <MikeMcG at PTD.net> wrote:
>>> If by 'bottled' you mean 'canned up' in Mason jars, you need a pressure
>>>cooker; any state University Extension website will have more details.
>>>Chill the cooked food down in the fridges; then freeze, never putting
>>>warm food into the freezer. Refrigeration is the best for food safety if
>>>you
>>>have the room and power....
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>---Mike McG
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: "Mike Leech"
>>>To:
>>>Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 4:49 AM
>>>Subject: [Community_garden] Assistance with Project
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Greetings all Gardeners,
>>>>
>>>>We are about to commence with a project here on the east coast of South
>>>>Africa in converting a small municipal depot in to a community gardeners
>>>>training centre and kitchen.
>>>>
>>>>One of the areas in which we are out of our depth is the conversion of
>>>>surplus garden produce into unique saleable products in our soon to be
>>>>converted kitchen. We will also be tasked with the cooking up of donated
>>>>fruit and vegetables for the local school children feeding scheme
>>>>especially
>>>>for the children who live in child controlled homes.
>>>>
>>>>We do not know much about safe bottling and preparation of meals for
>>>>freezing
>>>>
>>>>We have had fridges and deep freezes donated for the storage of these
>>>>cooked
>>>>meals. We also will have enough pantry space for keeping our bottled
>>>>produce.
>>>>
>>>>What we would appreciate if any person could share with us recipes and
>>>>suggestions that could assist us in making this project a success.
>>>>
>>>>Many thanks,
>>>>Michel Leech
>>>>eThekwini Municipality
>>>>c/o P.O. Box 1878,
>>>>Pinetown.3600
>>>>South Africa
>>>>
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